Date | 22-Oct-03 | 30-Oct-04 | 20-Jan-06 | 18-Apr-07 | 30-Jan-08 |
Who to? | Queensland Police | Campbell | Lt Brad Flynn | Queensland Police | Coroners Inquest |
Where? | Townsville Police Station | | Boston, Massachusetts | Providence Police Station | Townsville Coroners Court |
How? |
Written Statement |
Email |
Video and transcript of interview |
Written Statement but not signed |
Interrogation via videolink |
What depth when he first saw something? |
5 metres |
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5 metres |
5 metres also confirms he was still at 5 m when diver 1 sank away |
Group of divers seen? |
Yes |
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Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
What were they doing? |
"a bunch of divers coming up toward the surface" |
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"at the time I didn't know whether they were descending or ascending" |
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"the front two divers, I thought they were ascending" - note that this was "Not diver 1 and diver 2" |
Which direction were they? |
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"Down and to my left" |
"down and to my left" |
"down to my left" |
Could he see wreck? |
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At first he says "I don't remember when I was looking at them - seeing the wreck" but then says "I remember the wreck being - above and to the right now" |
"While divers 1 and 2 were in my field of vision I could not see any part of the wreck" |
"I couldn't see the wreck" and "I could only see the wreck when I went down to find Roger (Robert)" |
How far from divers to wreck? |
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"a lot farther than the divers and the surface" |
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"so I don't know where they were in relation to the wreck" |
How many in group? |
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4 - 5 |
4 or 5 |
4 or 5 |
4 or 5 |
How close were diver 1 and 2 to him? |
20 feet (6 m) |
20 feet (6 m) |
20 feet (6 m) |
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20 feet (6 m) |
How close to each other? |
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"at least 5-10 feet between people" (2-3 m) |
Spread out over 5-10 feet apart (2-3 m) |
Spread out over 5-10 feet apart (2-3 m) |
"roughly 10 feet apart" |
How deep were diver 1 and 2? |
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"roughly 35 feet maybe - or less" but then says "so maybe 50 feet but probably less than that" |
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"I guess she was between 35/40 feet (11-12 m), maybe 50 feet (15 m)" |
When 1 and 2 together, how far was next closest diver? |
10 feet (3 m) |
10 feet (3 m) |
Do not recall but they were in the middle of the group |
10 feet (3 m) |
10 feet? |
Were 1 and 2 above this group? |
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In the group |
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Did not know, could have been above or below or level |
Was the group conscious of 1 and 2? |
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Yes, possible not aware |
Yes, possible not aware |
Yes, possible not aware |
Not aware of what was happening |
Size of divers 1 and 2? |
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"Can you comment on the heights and build of those divers in relation to each other?" Stutz answered "No I can not" |
Diver 2 was bigger than diver 1, male |
Diver 2 was bigger than diver 1, male |
"He was a bit bigger than her and broader than her" |
What orientation was diver 1? |
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Diver 1 was on her back "Yep" |
"facing towards the surface" and "eyes were wide open" |
"looking up at me" |
Diver 2 cradling 1? |
Behind the divers back "but it happened so fast I am not sure" |
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"put his arms around her" "his hands were around her back" |
"arms of diver 2 were circling the torso of diver 1" |
"had his hands around her" and "under the arm-pits" |
Were they moving? |
Stationary |
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Stationary |
How did they come together? |
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"He came - to her - ah - and came sort of on top of her" |
"he was about 10 feet away from diver 1" |
"another diver come into the picture" about 5 or 10 seconds later |
Was diver 1 Tina? |
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Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Making eye contact |
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"We did eye contact" |
"I could see her face quite clearly" |
"I could see her face" |
How long together? |
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Together 30 seconds |
"30 seconds at the maximum" and "maybe as little as 10 seconds" |
"I wouldn't say more than 30 seconds, possibly less" |
How did they part? | "I then saw them both split apart. I saw diver 2 got to the surface really quickly. I saw diver 1 begin to sink toward the sea bed" |
NOT MENTIONED | "Ah - when the[y] split apart - they were no other divers that came into the picture ..."
| "when the two divers separated" |
"Something happened - maybe she'd pulled her (sic) regulator out of his mouth, or kneed him in the groin" |
Diver 2 ascending |
"Diver 2 go to the surface really quickly" |
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Diver 2 "he went to the surface - relatively quickly" |
"diver 2's ascended" but "did not pass me at any time" |
"he went towards the surface" and later agreed that he went really quickly |
Diver 1 sinking |
"diver 1 begin to sink" |
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Diver 1 "sunk to the bottom" |
"essentially disappeared into the blackness" |
"she was sinking and she sunk in the blackness" |
Losing eye contact |
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Lost eye contact |
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"I lost eye contact" |
Was diver 2 behind diver 1? |
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"He was facing her", "Never" behind her |
"At no stage did I observe diver 2 behind diver 1" |
Agreed did not see diver 2 behind diver 1 |
Fear |
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Look of fear in her face |
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"she really looked scared" |
Arms and leg movement |
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Arms and legs flailing "she wasn't like thrashing" |
"disorganised" and "moving flapping slowly up and down" |
"flaying basically, and she was moving her arms, not unpurposely, and her legs similarly" later says "thrashing her arms and legs" |
Were bubbles coming from diver 1? |
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Does not recall bubbles from her |
Does not recall bubbles from her |
Does not recall bubbles from her |
"I don't recall" |
Was diver 1 still moving when sinking? |
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Still moving when sinking, arms side to side near head |
Still moving but weaker |
"she couldn't swim" |
How did diver 3 appear? |
Saw another diver come back down, not diver 2 |
NO MENTION but does say between 30 seconds and 3 minutes when diver 3 broke surface (after appearing?) |
Diver 3 came "less than a minute - probably more like 30 seconds" "dove straight to the bottom" |
No mention? |
"I saw another diver come dive in the water and go basically straight down to get her" and "I saw another diver come in from above, and make a beeline straight to the bottom" and "I was impressed by how fast he went down, honestly" and "I was stunned actually" and "He did after that period of time [enter the water - that is he was not in the water till this time]" |
Where was he when he saw diver 3 descending? |
Descended a few metres |
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"After diver 1 disappeared from view I accelerated my descent past the other divers" |
Implies still at 5 metres |
Where was he when diver 3 and 1 ascended? |
Past 10 to 15 metres they had started to come up |
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Does not say depth, but now implies that he went to instructor to tell about diver 1 and 2 |
"So I started skipping divers in my group to get down to where Roger (actually Robert) was" at 10-15 metres |
How were they ascending? |
Really quickly |
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How was diver 3 holding diver 1 |
"It looked as though he had her in a bear hug" |
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"holding diver 1's regulator in her mouth" |
"he was behind her and had her in an embrace" |
How did diver 1 look? |
"Diver 1 did not appear to be moving or responding" |
Could see her face as passed by |
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"lifeless" and "vomit coming from her mouth" |
"She wasn't moving. She had blood coming out of her mouth - she looked dead to me" and "she had vomit coming from he mouth" |
How far from him did diver 1 and 3 pass? |
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10-15 feet (3-5 m) |
15-20 feet |
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Close enough to see her eyes and then "10, 15 feet" |